Mat. 5: 18 ...till the heaven & earth pass away,

not one jot or tittle shall pass from the Torah till all be done.

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The Preexistence of Messiah and The Echad (H259 - unity) of Father and Son

 Gen 1:26  And Elohim said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the livestock, and over all the earth and over all the creeping creatures that creep on the earth.”

Exo 23:20  “See, I am sending a Messenger before you to guard you in the way and to bring you into the place which I have prepared.

Exo 23:21  “Be on guard before Him and obey His voice. Do not rebel against Him, for He is not going to pardon your transgression, for My Name is in Him.

Pro 8:23  “I was set up ages ago, at the first, Before the earth ever was.

Pro 8:24  “When there were no depths I was brought forth, When there were no springs heavy with water. 

Pro 8:25  “Before mountains were sunk, Before the hills, I was brought forth, 

Pro 8:26  “Before He had made the earth and the fields, Or the first dust of the world

Pro 8:27  “When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He decreed a vault on the face of the deep, 

Pro 8:28  “When He set the clouds above, When He made the fountains of the deep strong, 

Pro 8:29  “When He gave to the sea its limit, So that the waters would not transgress His command, When He decreed the foundations of the earth, 

Pro 8:30  “Then I was beside Him, a master workman, And I was His delight, day by day Rejoicing before Him all the time

Pro 30:4  Who has gone up to the heavens and come down? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is His Name, And what is His Son’s Name, If you know it?

I think it is quite clear that the Father and the Son are separate beings, but wait, there is more...

Mat 19:17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, Elohim: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

See, also, Mark 10:18 & Luke 18:19


If The Messiah IS The Father, than I guess the following scriptures are just an account of Yahusha praying to himself!? 

Mat 11:25  At that time Yahusha answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Master of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

Mat 26:39 (and v. 42)  And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

Mar 14:35  And he went forward a little, and fell on the ground, and prayed that, if it were possible, the hour might pass from him. 

Mar 14:36  And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.

Luk 22:42  Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. 


If The Father and Son are one being, is the Messiah implying, in the following scriptures, that we will become one being if we stay in them? 

Joh 17:11  “And I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Set-apart Father, guard them in Your Name which You have given Me, so that they might be one, as We are.

Joh 17:21  so that they all might be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, so that they too might be one in Us, so that the world might believe that You have sent Me. 

Joh 17:22  “And the esteem which You gave Me I have given them, so that they might be one as We are one

Joh 17:23  “I in them, and You in Me, so that they might be perfected into one, so that the world knows that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. 

It's real clear that the Messiah is unified with The Father in everything that He commands, and His desire is for His people to be unified as well.


If The Father and Son are one being, how is Yahusha standing at the right hand of YAH? 

Act 7:55  But he, being full of the Holy Spirit, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of YHWH, and Yahusha standing on the right hand of the Most High, 

Act 7:56  And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of YHWH. 

Rev 3:14a "And to the messenger of the assembly in Laodikeia write, 'The Amen, the Trustworthy and True Witness, the Beginning of the creation of Elohim', says this...

 If The Father and Son are one being, is Revelation 3:14 saying that YAH is the Beginning of creating Himself?  Does that EVEN make sense?


I will be back with more scriptures very soon.


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